FULL FAITH AND CREDIT - RESPONSE BY 'S' (Updated August 25, 2010)
"S", I respectfully point out that you have misconstrued the meaning of 'FULL FAITH AND CREDIT" as used in the constitution.
Full Faith and Credit under the Constitution of the United States (1776) Article IV sec. 1"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may, by general laws, prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof\"
By Act of May 26, 1790, vol. 1, p, 115, Congress provided the mode by which the public records and acts are to be authenticated for full faith and credit, in every court within the United States as they have where the records were taken: \"The said records and judicial proceedings, shall be authenticated by oath or affirmation before a person authorized to administer the oath of office; and the person or persons so administering the oath hereby required to be taken, shall cause a record or certificate thereof to be made, in the same manner, as, by the law of the State, he or they shall be directed to record or certify the oath of office. By Supplementary Act of March 27, 1804, vol. 7, p. 153, § 2, the provisions of the original Act of 26th May, 1790, states it shall apply as well to the records and courts of the respective territories of the United States and countries subject to the jurisdiction of the United States as to the records and courts of the several states. It is!
a cardinal rule of statutory construction that significance and effect shall, if possible, be accorded to every word. If it can be prevented, no clause, sentence, or word, shall be superfluous, void, or insignificant.\' United States v. Lexington Mill & E. Co., 232 US 399, pp. 409. (1914)
In Mills v. Duryee 11 US 7, Cranch 481 (1813) The Court said, "The act declares that the record duly authenticated shall have such faith and credit as it has in the state court from whence it is taken. If in such court it has the faith and credit of evidence of the highest nature, viz., record evidence, it must have the same faith and credit in every other court".
Please! Read the law!FULL FAITH AND CREDIT pertains to books and records duly authenticated with other evidence \"shall be given FULL FAITH AND CREDIT . In other words, "Prove up your claim".
LF
Understood and agreed.
However, what is the basis upon or by which any 'claim' is expressed? All is in commerce, including the ""FULL FAITH AND CREDIT"" which ""pertains to books and records duly authenticated with other evidence"" upon which any claim is promulgated? What are the books and records ultimately all about if not 'liability' under the tontine maritime admiralty insurance scheme operating as International Admiralty Law in BANKRUPTCY?? All claims, any claim which may be brought, is a matter of 'faith and credit', which is not just 'books and records' which may be produced into evidence as 'verified'. What 'verifications', then, underlies a System that is built wholly on fraud, deception, extortion, wrongful conversion?? What is 'credit', really, but a promise to 'pay' on an obligation in the future which obligation is claimed to exist now? What 'secures' the 'faith and credit' of any US Treasury issued instrument??
My interpretation goes to the 'faith and credit of the UNITED STATES / UNITED STATES OF AMERICA', wherein and whereon its books and records are made to appear as being 'bona fide' having 'true value', and which do not. It is no different than the current unfolding derivatives scam whereon our Birth Certificate Bond(s) are being used as the paramount 'first trading platform' by which to express the value of any FRN, which is then used to further express the fictitious value of these bogus transactional 'contracts'.
It is the 'faith and credit' of the American People which / who underlay said CORPORATE institutions and IT's 'instruments', being entrapped / enslaved by the debt-as-money commercial System w/o knowing they are the Fiduciary Creditor to the CORPORATION. The military styled occupation of the American states and People was brought about with intent to 'capitalize' on our labor and productivity, indeed, but even more so to capitalize our credit capacity and standing as Living Man / Woman to the fictitious CORPORATION.
Where would the international financial / monetary System be, say just going back to Bretton Woods Agreement for an international 'reserve currency' to 'restabilize' the global economy and that of individual (debtor) Natoins, if not for the 'faith and credit of the UNITED STATES / UNITED STATES OF AMERICA'?? which obtains IT's 'faith and credit' from who / where? What is the basic principle and who is the Principal underlying the 'faith and credit' that any person or party relies on in commerce when transacting commerce on the basis of US DOLLAR denominated contracts? What is the basis for the provision on face of FRN's since HJR-192 was enacted that says the Note is 'legal tender for all debts public and private'? On what basis is any such 'tender' expressed in terms of? What 'faith' and who's credit underlies that which may be attributed to any 'instrument' 'issued' on the US Treasury, which has not existed since 1912?? IT IS ALL DEBT CREATION / DEBT COLLECTION by EXTORTIONATE OF CREDIT AND THE 'FAITH' WHICH THE WORLD OF NATIONS AND MEN HAVE PLACED ON THE 'US DOLLAR'.
Therefore, ultimately, 'faith and credit of the US Gov't' goes to, amongst other things, the underlying coerced effect of the erroneous 14th Amendment wherein it was / is allegedly 'enacted' that no 'US citizen' has the right to protest the 'public debt'. This means, how the debt is expressed and on what basis; how it is created, carried, administrated, collected, used, discharged, paid down, or increased. On what basis, then, does any 're venue' stream that is alleged to be 'due' the US Gov't over any period of time, have the attribute of 'money' or 'monetary value' or 'monetary character' by which it may be used as 'security' or collateral by or upon which to promulgate additional erroneous 'credit borrowings' on a notational basis and whereby even the Gov't cannot disprove the true "ident' of the Fiduciary Creditors who's 'credit' and 'faith' the Gov't extorts?
Your points are well constructed and well received.....If you wish to review the 'law' of how 'they' have converted each American into an unwitting source of unlimited credit, to act in capacity as Private Banker within a National Bank Association, I can share some docs with you which I used inside a Ch7 bk case of my own.... But, you are correct on the strict interpretation of the word art used.
Thanks for writing.....good stuff. Lines wide open but only in strict confidence.
Blessings
"S"
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FULL FAITH AND CREDIT RESPONSE TO \"S\"
Thank you
Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America (1776) States Article IV sec. 1\"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may, by general laws, prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.\"
The first general law came by Act of May 26, 1790, vol. 1, p, 115: \"The said records and judicial proceedings, shall be authenticated by oath or affirmation before a person authorized to administer the oath of office; and the person or persons so administering the oath hereby required to be taken, shall cause a record or certificate thereof to be made, in the same manner, as, by the law of the State, he or they shall be directed to record or certify the oath of office.
By Supplementary Act of March 27, 1804, vol. 7, p. 153, § 2, the provisions of the original Act of 26th May, 1790, states it shall apply as well to the records and courts of the respective territories of the United States and countries subject to the jurisdiction of the United States as to the records and courts of the several states. It is a cardinal rule of statutory construction that significance and effect shall, if possible, be accorded to every word. If it can be prevented, no clause, sentence, or word, shall be superfluous, void, or insignificant.\' United States v. Lexington Mill & E. Co., 232 US 399, pp. 409. (1914)
FULL FAITH AND CREDIT is authenticated by the seal. I am adding here the Notary Act of 1850 as follows:
THIRTY-FIRST CONGRESS Sess.I Ch.52,53. 1850
Sept 16, 1850 Chap. LII An Act to authorize Notaries Public to take and certify Oaths,
Affirmations, and Acknowledgments in certain Cases.
â?oBe it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That in all cases in which, under the laws of the United States, oaths, or affirmations, or acknowledgements may now be taken or made before any justice or justices of the peace of any State or Territory, such oaths, affirmations, or acknowledgments may be hereafter also taken or made by or before any notary public duly appointed in any State or Territory, such oaths, affirmations, or acknowledgements may be hereafter also taken or made by or before any notary public duly appointed in any State or Territory, and, when certified under the hand and official seal of such notary, shall have the same force and effect as if taken or made by or before such justice or justices of the peace. And all laws and parts of laws for punishing perjury, or subordination of perjury, committed in any such oaths or affirmation, when taken or made before any such justice of the!
peace, shall apply to any such offence committer in any oaths or affirmations which may be taken under this act before a notary public, or commissioner, as hereinafter named: Provided always That on any trial for either of these offences, the seal and signature of the notary shall not be deemed sufficient in themselves to establish the official character of such notary, but the same shall be shown by other and proper evidence.
And be it further enacted, That all the powers and authority conferred in and by the preceding section of this act upon notaries public be, and the same are hereby, vested in, and may be exercised by, any commissioner appointed, or hereafter to be appointed, by any Circuit Court of the United States, under any act of Congress authorizing the appointment of commissioners to take bail, affidavits, or depositions, in causes pending in the courts of the United States.â?
Approved, September 16, 1850. (Statutes at large are available at any regional public library in the United States.)
Congress has the power of a local legislature and may, pursuant to Article I, Sec. 8, cl.9, 18, vest jurisdiction to hear matters of local law and local concerns in courts not having Article III characteristics. In summary, territorial courts are Article I courts in which Notaries Public are granted full faith and credit for their books and records duly authenticated by oaths and affirmations and the seal and signature and other proper evidence with full force and effect as if taken or made by or before justice or justices of the peace.
The Notary holds the highest judicial office in the land. In the
early years of the states of America land was bought sold, traded, or won through wars and the nations involved signed and sealed treaties. Do we still honor those treaties? YOU BET!
My question is simply this: IF the bank cannot produce the note with the original seal is there a claim? Frankly, the Jekyll Island gang took a gamble on secrecy in 1913. It has had a free ride and a profitable return for ninety-seven years. Now, the people are a wake and the jig is up if there is a debt owed it belongs to the banks and their owners, not the people. I have one other comment. The Notary Act has been in recognized continuously since its enactment. It ties the people of this generation and every previous generation to the organic constitution through territorial law.
Sincerely,
LF
FULL FAITH AND CREDIT FINAL THOUGHT
A friend just pointed out: UBERRIMA FIDES
Perfect good faith; abundant good faith.
This phrase is used to express that a contract must be made in perfect good faith, concealing nothing; as in the case of insurance, the insured must observe the most perfect good faith towards the insurer.
LF