From: R

To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>

Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:50 AM

Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Linlar Services

Message:

To : Whistleblower

Subject : The Green Hilton Treaty'

Questions :

1. Who collected the combined asset for President Soekarno to hold in the first place ?

2. With the assasination of JFK, who else in the USA knew of this Treaty, but not informing the people of the USA (and the world)?

3. Why not the witnesses of the Treaty demanded that the US Govt. obey the Treaty's terms and Conditions

4. Many of the names in the Treaty were pseudonames, some Indonesian, some Western Names that doesn\'t match any persons living (at the time) or death.  Just a Code name, correct ?

5. In the event of their death, there was another code / password to follow up. Correct ?

6. How does one demand and collect the 2.5% right for the Indonesians?

7. Even Soekarno also didn\'t hold up to all the terms, because of what reasons ?  Soekarno was not assasinated, but he might as well be, he was circumvented and thrown out of power with the help from CIA.

8. There is many fake-gold bars floating around in Indonesia and many cave/holding sites for these gold bars, allegedly, guarded by the descendants of the original safe keepers, arraged at one time by Soekarno.

Thats one too many questions, I guess, but one last one:

There was no photocopy machines in 1963, how was the documents copied?

By Photographically printing them in colours?

Thank you:

R

(Response)

Sender Message:

To : Whistleblower

Subject : The Green Hilton \'Treaty\'

Questions :

1.         Who collected the combined asset for President Soekarno to hold in the first place ?

It is not a question of "Collection". It is a fact that the Royal Families of the World, their Colonies, and after the War all other Nations of the World, passed, under the obligations and legal conditions of numerous International Treaties, assets to the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility. Those assets were moved and deposited into various Countries of the World under the Custodianship of the Country, with its King, Queen, or President being the Head Custodian for and on behalf of the Country. No one Country held, under Custodian Depository arrangements, its own assets. Such Countries held only the assets deposited from other Countries of the World.

The movement of assets commenced just after 1910, but gained momentum after the 1920 London Treaty, and further momentum during and after WW II, and then the Bretton Woods Treaty.

In the Far East, the Japanese were the main Country that was charged with collecting and moving assets, although many European Countries were involved in moving assets from Europe and other countries to the Far East, following which the Japanese took over the secreting of the assets.

2.                  With the assassination of JFK, who else in the USA knew of this Treaty, but not informing the people of the USA (and the world)?

Obviously, there were people in the Government who also knew, including Congress and the Senate of the US, as well as the CIA. All these parties were major players in the structuring of the Combined International Collateral Accounts and the mechanisms behind them. Whether the Government or CIA informed the People would be dependent upon whether this matter was "Classified" of not.

If you look at all the actual Laws behind all of this, you will see that many originated from the USA.

This matter is further detailed within the information contained within our New Web Site which is now in the process of being finalised and will be placed on the Web in due course.

3.         Why not the witnesses of the Treaty demanded that the US Govt. obey the Treaty\'s terms and Conditions.

In Law, the "Witnesses" are only Witnesses, they are not the elected Government / or the elected representatives of the People. They cannot dictate, force, or demand that their Government obey the Terms, Conditions of the Treaties. That is a matter for the Government only. In International Law, a Government is legally obliged to adhere to International Treaties unless it officially repudiates same, for which there is a recognised protocol, whereby all Countries are notified of any / all repudiations of any Treaties.

4.         Many of the names in the Treaty were pseudonames, some Indonesian, some Western Names that doesn\'t match any persons living (at the time) or death.  Just a Code name, correct ?

Two separate issues here. First, there are at least Three (3) known forgeries of this particular Treaty. All Three are different to each other and all Three bear names that appear to be, in the majority, similar to the names of the real signatories and Witnesses. However, you are correct, they were just pseudonyms used by those who actually forged these documents. .

The Second issue here is that the "Real" Treaty does bear the "Real" Signatures of all persons associated, but, most of those persons held at least 3, possibly 4, different types of Signature, just as Soekarno him self did.  It is therefore reasonable to assume that each Signatory used one of their 3 or 4 registered Signatures when executing this Treaty.

5.         In the event of their death, there was another code / password to follow up. Correct ?

In respect of Indonesia, there were 5 known volumes of records (substantial in size) which specifically define, amongst other things, what happens after the death of Primary Custodians, Sub-Custodians, Sub-sub-Custodians etc. We hold here a certified copy of Volume 4, which specifically details the names of all persons involved, their responsibilities, etc. etc. etc. It even gives the Four (4) different types of Signatures used by President Soekarno.

It should not be presumed that Codes and Passwords were officially applicable or even changed if applicable, as these procedures are defined within the records. In many cases the actual Sub-Custodians and Sub-sub-custodians gave themselves Code names and passwords, mainly to protect them from the activities of others, but also to protect the assets under their custodianship.

There are many stories and wild accusations about Codes, Passwords and other issues which hold no Foundation whatsoever. Custodians and Signatories also sometimes attempt to make them selves out to be very important and an integral part of the system. This is another fallacy, whereby in fact such persons, in fact their positions as Custodians or Signatories, can be extinguished at any time (in seconds) as they are only a small part of the system. 

6.                  How does one demand and collect the 2.5% right for the Indonesians?

It is not a question of "Demanding" or "Collecting" as you state. The 2.5% is paid automatically to a Foundation for Indonesia and its People, which is usually under the control of the President, or persons nominated by the President. This was all bound into Law under the "Respecting the Rights Treaty – Bangkok, 2003". When the assets are utilized, the country utilizing the assets agrees to pay the Custodian Fee, which is subsequently paid to the Foundation as referred to above.

Unfortunately, the Indonesia Assets have not been used because those persons (that being Descendants of Soekarno, Claimants, or similar) claim they own the assets and have many times in the past attempted to utilized the assets for their own personal gain (similar to the Philippines). Additionally, we are aware that assets have been plundered, whereby under the International Treaties, a Country and its people are responsible and liable in full for any missing assets that must be replaced like for like. Therefore that part of the Collateral Accounts remains dormant as such.

We are gradually working through all of this, but other issues do complicate matters, such as the illegal encumbrance of some of the Gold and Platinum by the USA. In reality it is quite a mess and will take some time to resolve satisfactorily.

We have attempted to assist Indonesia in the Past on three occasions that I know of. In all of these cases (the latest being in 2007 by a Canadian Indonesian) attempts were made to pervert the assets from use for Indonesia as a Country, and it's People, to personal gain by those entrusted with specific Certificates. In each case the assets were "Blocked" indefinitely and all Certificates / Instruments involved were officially declared illegal, so as to prevent further attempted illegal use.

7.         Even Soekarno also didn\'t hold up to all the terms, because of what reasons

Agreed. As was the same situation with Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines. However, there are reasons for most of this, which were because of the attempted illegal use and plunder of the assets by the USA mainly.

?  Soekarno was not assasinated, but he might as well be, he was circumvented and thrown out of power with the help from CIA.

Correct. As was the case with Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines. Both Soekarno and Marcos backed away from what the USA were attempting to do at the time, which was use the assets illegally to introduce an Asian Dollar (A one World Currency applicable to all Nations of the World with the USA controlling same). For their "Backing Off" their payment was removal or elimination by the USA / CIA.

This Asian Dollar is still being attempted, as the currency is actually printed and stored in China and the Philippines. To see the current developments on this situation one must look at the more Western oriented Politicians, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Hopefuls, etc that are still very much present within the Asian Countries. The last person publicly known to support such n Asian common currency was Thaksin Shinawatra, former Prime Minister of Thailand who publicly announced a common currency in 2004, but it never happened. He was removed by a Military Coup on Sept 19^th 200, not just specifically for that reason as there where other reasons involved, another one of which involved the assets deposited in Thailand and Cambodia.

8.         There is many fake-gold bars floating around in Indonesia and many cave/holding sites for these gold bars, allegedly, guarded by the descendants of the original safe keepers, arraged at one time by Soekarno.

Agreed. Much of this was undertaken deliberately and for personal gain. To give and example that is known about. 20MT was smelted, 3 MT was placed on one side and mixed with Copper and Lead in a ration that allowed for a quantity of 20 MT of Fake Gold (15% Gold Alloy). The fake gold complete with excellent copies of the original certificates was sold into the market place. The 17 MT was mixed with a further 3 MT of locally mined Gold or Gold further acquired, re-cast, re-stamped and new documents issued. It was usual for the "Real Gold" to be moved out of Indonesia and / or the Philippines.

This came to the notice of the authorities in 1992 and 1993, who in 1994 issued New Directives re Gold, Re-refining and re-registration etc. to prevent such illegal activities arising in the future without being quickly recognised. This was also at a time when many Gold Refineries throughout the World were closed down and Licences withdrawn.

Thats one too many questions, I guess, but one last one:

9.                  There was no photocopy machines in 1963, how was the documents copied?

By Photographically printing them in colours?

Many of the International Treaties were executed in numerous originals. That is because of the number of persons / parties / organisations / Nations involve and who were legally entitled to an original document. Exactly how many originals of each and every Treaty is not known. Copies of same were kept on record in Micro-film form.

As for the various Treaty Fakes, and indeed Fake Gold / Platinum Bullion Certificates, these can be recognised quite easily by the paper used. It is more than likely that Amateurs did not use "Security Paper". However, for the more experienced criminal, security paper may have been available, but a combination of Paper, Ink, method of printing, and deliberate mistakes within the content of the documents would have been noticeable. You should also be aware that there is also a "Library" copy of all such documents which can be referred to for forensic purposes and evidence purposes, under specific protocols, if required.

Please be careful about the simplicity factor as indicated in your communication. The system is very definitively structured in a highly complex manner. Fraud can only be perpetrated by a "Collective" of People, usually that right at the top in Government or Military, together with corrupt Bankers (UBS for example) etc. Individually, a person could never put it all together whereby there would always be substantial pieces missing. That person usually ends up incarcerated.

 

Thank you:

R

 

Yours faithfully,     

Whistleblower.