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'HELLO, CENTRAL!'! WAS THE B.P. GULF OF MEXICO OIL RIG DELIBERATELY BLOWN UP? (Updated May 8, 2010)

Patrick H. Bellringer

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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:18 AM
Subject: Oil Rig Explosion??
 
Hello Patrick I hope you and Anne are doing good and that your health is good also. I just wanted to ask you if you think the oil rig was intentionally blown up by our evil government. Every time I  hear something about it on the news I have a deep feeling it was a inside job to get attention on something else besides them and to also raise prices of oil and gas higher and to destroy  the beautiful waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

' Maybe I am wrong but the feeling won't go away. What is your take on this? Have you heard anything from Hatonn about it?

Thanks for all you and Anne do. I believe we are very close now for mother earth to roll over.

GW

 
(Response)
 
FROM:  Patrick H. Bellrinr
     TO:  GW
DATE:  April 30, 2010
SUBJECT:  Reply
 
Dear GW:
 
    I refer you to the May 1, 2010 article by Sorcha Fall entitled "US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing of Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig" for the answer to your question.  We are posting this article on May l.
 
                            In Love and Light,
                            Patrick H. Bellringer
                                      bellringer@fourwinds10.com
                                      www.fourwinds10.com
 
 
 
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From: "D" 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
 
Hello Central,

I have been doing some reading. regarding the situation in the Gulf of Mexico with BP\'s Oil Rig.

This situation is not only a disaster, but a WORLD WIDE Catastrophe.

Imagine a pipe 5 feet wide spewing crude oil like a fire hose from what could be the planets\' largest, high-pressure oil and gas reserve.

The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they\'re saying 200,000 gallons a day. That\'s over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

168 or so Quart\'s per barrel. at 200,000 barrel\'s per day. That\'s about  33,600,000 quart\'s per day being leaked into the Giulf, at the water destruction level of 8,400,000,000,000 GALLONS of water PER DAY, that is destroyed for life to be able to survive.

I don\'t know how many gallons of water in the world\'s oceans. But if we don\'t get some Help from Our COSMIC Friends to fix this oil leak.

Within a matter of 30 day\'s or so. The oceans of the world will be destroyed, and not able to sustain life!!

I found these numbers. and info. here:

http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oceans/

Oh God help us PLEASE

in LOVE and LIGHT.

D

 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:56 AM
Subject: 'HELLO, CENTRAL!'! WAS THE B.P. GULF OF MEXICO OIL RIG DELIBERATELY BLOWN UP?
 

Mr Bellringer,

 

I have read the Sorcha Faal story.

I have been working in the oil industry for >35 years and was 8 years offshore installation manager.

In my opinion the Sorcha Faal story plainly sucks!

Reason: Look at the fotosavailable!!  I have a series from initial fire to sinking.

Any type of torpedo would damage the floats and cause immediate listing of the installation.

This only happened after some 24 hours, due to water ingress from the attempts to control the fire,

there were some 8 ships with 16 fire monitors spraying on it, in addition the fire was only raging on top of the installation.

There has been a (deliberate or accidental) explosion on deck, but it cannot have been caused by an incendiary torpedo.

Too the sinking went gradually as the rig was taking in more and more water and finally keeled over causing it to submerge.

There was no sign of a second explosion under it, to sink it.

The tubing connecting the subsea wellhead to the rig has fallen on the seabed and is bent/broken.

 

Finally, the story of the 5 foot pipe is not correct.

A well is a series of tubes stuck inside each other.

Apparently they had just cemented the inner casing, which generally would be around 8” diameter.

The production tubing that may (or not) have been inside is usually around 4”.

BUT: On the seabed is a so called Blow Out Preventer, attached to the outer (~30”) casing tube, this one from HYDRIL.

This is a set of valves capable of CUTTING trough a steel production pipe and sealing the borehole.

This BOP has not functioned properly, the way to resolve this is to use a Remote Operated Vehicle and fully close the BOP,

by applying external hydraulic pressure on the actuators.

Finally it is also possible to remove the broken off top connection and install another valve on top, which then can be closed.

The relief well option everyone talks about is only the last resort.

ANY TYPE OF EXPLOSIVES, INCLUDING MICRO NUKES, WOULD ONLY WORSEN THE SITUATION.

 

Hope this explains it at least a bit.

Regards, KVK.

 

 

 

   

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----- Original Message -----
From: R
To:
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:49 PM
Subject: Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans
 
Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans
Contributed by Sterling Allan (Reporter)

2. mai 2010 20:48:19

Imagine a pipe 5 feet wide spewing crude oil like a fire hose from what could be the planets' largest, high-pressure oil and gas reserve.  With the best technology available to man, the Deepwater Horizon rig popped a hole into that reserve and was overwhelmed.  If this isn't contained, it could poison all the oceans of the world.
     "Well if you say the fire hose has a 70,000 psi pump on the other end yes!  No comparison here.   The volume out rises geometrically with pressure.  Its a squares function. Two times the pressure is 4 times the push.   The Alaska pipeline is 4 feet in diameter and pushes with a lot less pressure.  This situation in the Gulf of Mexico is stunning dangerous." -- Paul Noel (May 2, 2010)
Last night we received the following text in an email, author not identified.  I passed it by Paul Noel, who is an expert in the field.  His response follows thereafter.
The Oil Mess

[...].

The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work. [See Paul Noel's ideas above.]

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.



Response by Paul Noel

for Pure Energy Systems News

I really do think that the situation is getting further and further out of hand. 

By yesterday morning, the nature of the crude had changed, indicating that the spill was collapsing the rock structures. How much I cannot say. If it is collapsing the rock structures, the least that can be said is that the rock is fragmenting and blowing up the tube with the oil. With that going on you have a high pressure abrasive sand blaster working on the kinks in the pipe eroding it causing the very real risk of increasing the leaks. 

More than that is the very real risk of causing the casing to become unstable and literally blowing it up the well bringing the hole to totally open condition. Another risk arises because according to reports the crew was cementing the exterior of the casing when this happens. As a result, the well, if this was not properly completed, could begin to blow outside the casing. Another possible scenario is a sea floor collapse. If that happens Katie bar the door. 

Possible Fix

I do not see any good possibilities from humans further fracturing the rock particularly at higher levels. That is the cap rock that is holding the deposit together. 

I do see a possible use of explosives for favorable outcome. If a properly sized charge were applied in a shaped fashion around the drill pipe at some distance from it say 5 feet or so it is entirely possible that an explosive charge could pinch the pipe off similar to a hydraulic clamp. The resulting situation would vastly reduce the spill. Once you clamped off the pipe much more substantially say down to 1 foot or less opening the resulting pipe could be charge cut above the location and a tapered pipe fitted to it to collect any leaking oil. The end result would be to contain the spill and dramatically control any leaks because drill mud could then be entered into the pipe fitted to the exterior. In the end, the pipe could be controlled that way. The size of a charge to do this would be a few pounds not megatons. 

A nuclear detonation carries the real risk of giving us the full doomsday scenario on this well. I just don't like doing that. There is no coming back from the brink when you do that one. If it works, which I see as unlikely, great. If it doesn't work, there is now a maybe a hole 1/4 mile across leaking oil. That looks worse than any possible outcomes otherwise. 

Oil Deposit Capacity

The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. In published reports, BP estimated a blow out could reach near 200,000 Barrels per day (165,000) They may have estimated a flow rate on a 5 foot pipe. The deposit is well able to surpass this. 

The oil industry has knowledge of the deposit more than they admit. The deposit is 100 miles off shore. They are drilling into the edge of the deposit to leak it down gently to be able to produce from the deposit. The deposit is so large that while I have never heard exact numbers it was described to me to be either the largest or the second largest oil deposit ever found. It is mostly a natural gas deposit. That is another reason not to blast too willy nilly there. The natural gas that could be released is really way beyond the oil in quantity. It is like 10,000 times the oil in the deposit. 

It is this deposit that has me reminding people of what the Shell geologist told me about the deposit. This was the quote, "Energy shortage..., Hell! We are afraid of running out of air to burn." The deposit is very large. It covers an area off shore something like 25,000 square miles. Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. This is a really massive deposit. Punching holes in the deposit is a really scary event as we are now seeing. 

Rig and Pipe Info

The pipe is a fairly rigid pipe and sticks up out of the Blow out prevention device for some distance before it bends over and kinks off. The distance is not long but is enough to do what I suggested. Explosive forming of metals is a standard technology and under water it is easier. The charge focuses very predictably. 

Imaging a long straw that is 1 mile long and has kinked over in several locations. This is about what you have. I have seen the submarine photos from early on. Just a really big straw. It has about a 1.5 or 2 foot diameter drill pipe in the center with about a 10 inch hole down the center. I am not exactly sure on the drill pipe size. The casing here is very thick steel. It has to handle massive pressures.

The rig is quite some distance away from the well. It may be a 1/4 mile or more away. It sort of bent over and then kinked the pipe as it went down. 

I guess the size here sort of bends the imagination. This rig has a deck area of about 3 to 4 acres. It had a crew quarters on board that had about 120 people in it. (Imagine a big hotel here.) The hotel on the rig was about 4 stories high. You just cannot imagine until you see these rigs how big they are. If you want to see one go to Mobile Bay. Gulf High Island 2 and other rigs in the area can be seen clearly for 90 miles from Pensacola Florida. The towers go up 1100 feet. You can take the ferry right between two rigs if you go from Fort Morgan to Dauphin Island. There is no comparison to these rig anywhere in the world. They are the biggest ever built bar none. 

Controls That Should Have Been In Place

By the way, I am not against drilling it, I am just against doing so without proper controls.

  1. The rig that was drilling was not a US Flagged rig. That means US Inspectors were not allowed on board the rig to inspect it. As a matter of National Security under the GATT the USA has a right to demand US Only in various technology. The USA should never allow a foreign flag vessel to drill for oil in the US Economic Zone (200 mile limit). 
  2. Acoustic automated shut of devices should be required. 
  3. I think US Federal Inspectors should have to be resident on and inspecting rigs like this 24/7. 
  4. I think that the drilling should be required to do some smaller holes that deliberately miss the main deposit that test the structure before main drilling operations happen. 
  5. Careful procedures should be in place to set up wells before they hit the main deposit. The well casing should have to be inserted well before the drill hits the deposit and it should have to be cemented in at least 2 weeks prior to finishing the hole down to the oil or gas. This is to give the cement time to set. The casing should have ridging to make this cement have a tight wedged grip on the miles of rock around it. This is required because the lift pressure on a pipe in this case could easily reach 20 million pounds of lift. This is an insane amount of up pressure. Even at 70,000 psi it would lift about 140 million pounds. (almost 64,000 long tons!) 

Haste from Economic Pressure

I suspect that the series of disasters we have seen in mines around the world and in the USA regards coal and oil are the product of pushing the crews and developments too fast due to the high economic pressures. This happened the last time (Sago and others) when the economic pressure started rising. 

The economic pressures on the energy prices are stunning. Everyone is trying to keep their economy going. You can measure the economic output of a nation directly with the energy consumption day to day. The USA dropped its energy consumption in the current downturn (depression) by about 24%. It is now rising again. We are about 19% down and rising. The current situation is that the developments in oil/gas and coal are not keeping pace with what is going to be the demand shortly. They cannot even hope to meet the demand. 

This is why I said that Alternative Energy is the only hope. 

They can push the pedal to the metal (figuratively speaking) and there is not going to be a speed up much. Since human demand is going to force increases in supply towards 3 times the current level in less than 30 years, we are looking at a big hole with no hope of fixing it. 

Air pollution world wide is reaching levels that are at the limits of the environment to take the demands. This increase in energy has to come from somewhere else. 

Nuclear power doesn't have the potential. It turns out to run out of fuel in about 30 years. Worse yet solving the problem with nuclear doesn't do anything but boil away scarce fresh water supplies. All combustion does this. The only solutions are ones where the energy comes from somewhere else. Solar and Wind are good options. As you are also aware, the hard core alternatives are there in magnetic power etc. This has to come. 

The alternatives to drilling US Waters for oil if we solve this with oil are to depend more and more on hostile powers for oil. Funding your enemies is insane. Drilling in US waters risks ever increasing threats of what we have going on right now. 

The collapse of rock structures is even more scary. Mexico has one entire state that is being held up by nitrogen injection wells that would sink if that gas is released. This is not funny stuff. I know I get punched by the "know nothings" out there with political agenda, but I will risk it. If you will note the Oil and Gas people pretty much don't say anything against me. They know. I have been to some of their events and they actually like what I have to say. They cannot say it for fear of their jobs. 

If one estimates the cost of a barrel of oil from the Middle East, the US Armed Forces cost added in would drive it to about $2000/barrel. If people paid this at the pump they would be demanding what I say with force so high you couldn't hear anything else. If you factor in the cost of spills and such domestic oil probably costs $500/barrel or more. This is just insane. 

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Paul Noel, 52, works as Software Engineer (as Contractor) for the US Army at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. He has a vast experience base including education across a wide area of technical skills and sciences. He supplies technical expertise in all areas required for new products development associated with the US Army office he works in. He supplies extensive expertise in understanding the Oil and Gas industry as well. 

Born in Lynnwood Washington, he came to Huntsville Alabama, when his father moved to be part of NASA’s effort to put men on the moon. Neal Armstrong may have gotten the ride, but his father’s computers did the driving. 

 
 
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----- Original Message ----
-From: R
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: oil rig...as a matter of fact YES
 
To: (49729292)

Date: 01/05/2010 8:25:17 PM

Subject: Saboteur Cheney!! Halliburton suspect in oil rig disater

From:

psychic outlaw™ (Omi Oshun) the Photosynthesis

Richard B. Cheney is a scourge upon humanity and the planet.

Halliburton May Be Culprit In Oil Rig Explosion

Huffington Post First Posted: 04-30-10 10:43 AM

Updated: 04-30-10 03:59 PM

Giant oil-services provider Halliburton may be a primary suspect in the investigation into the oil rig explosion that has devastated the Gulf Coast, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Though the investigation into the explosion that sank the Deepwater Horizon site is still in its early stages, drilling experts agree that blame probably lies with flaws in the "cementing" process -- that is, plugging holes in the pipeline seal by pumping cement into it from the rig. Halliburton was in charge of cementing for Deepwater Horizon.

"The initial likely cause of gas coming to the surface had something to do with the cement," said Robert MacKenzie, managing director of energy and natural resources at FBR Capital Markets and a former cementing engineer in the oil industry.

The problem could have been a faulty cement plug at the bottom of the well, he said. Another possibility would be that cement between the pipe and well walls didn't harden properly and allowed gas to pass through it.

The possibility of Halliburton's culpability was first reported Monday by HuffPost's Marcus Baram.

According to a lawsuit filed in federal court by Natalie Roshto, whose husband Shane, a deck floor hand, was thrown overboard by the force of the explosion and whose body has not yet been located, Halliburton is culpable for its actions prior to the incident.

The suit claims that the company "prior to the explosion, was engaged in cementing operations of the well and well cap and, upon information and belief, improperly and negligently performed these duties, which was a cause of the explosion."

And Congressman Henry Waxman, the chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, sent a tough letter on Friday to Halliburton, asking for an explanation of its work on the rig, according to a spokesperson for the committee.

Last year, Halliburton was also implicated for its cementing work prior to a massive blowout off the coast of Australia, where a rig caught on fire and spewed hundreds of thousands of gallons into the sea for ten weeks.

In that incident, workers apparently failed to properly pump cement into the well, according to Elmer Danenberger, former head of regulatory affairs for the U.S. Minerals Management Service, who testified to an Australian commission probing that accident.

"The problem with the cementing job was one of the root causes in the Australian blowout," Danenberger told Huffington Post, adding that the rig crew didn't pick up on indications of an influx of fluids coming back in after they cemented the casing. "The crew didn't pick up on them and didn't take action."

Halliburton declined to return a detailed request for comment from Huffington Post.

The company did issue a press release responding to reports about its work on the rig:

As one of several service providers on the rig, Halliburton can confirm the following:

-- Halliburton performed a variety of services on the rig, including cementing,

and had four employees stationed on the rig at the time of the accident. Halliburton's employees returned to shore safely, due, in part, to the brave rescue efforts by the U.S. Coast Guard and other organizations.

-- Halliburton had completed the cementing of the final production casing string in accordance with the well design approximately 20 hours prior to the incident. The cement slurry design was consistent with that utilized in other similar applications.

-- In accordance with accepted industry practice approved by our customers, tests demonstrating the integrity of the production casing string were completed.

-- At the time of the incident, well operations had not yet reached the point requiring the placement of the final cement plug which would enable the planned temporary abandonment of the well, consistent with normal oilfield practice.

-- We are assisting with planning and engineering support for a wide range of options designed to secure the well, including a potential relief well.

Halliburton continues to assist in efforts to identify the factors that may have lead up to the disaster, but it is premature and irresponsible to speculate on any specific causal issues.

Halliburton originated oilfield cementing and leads the world in effective, efficient delivery of zonal isolation and engineering for the life of the well, conducting thousands of successful well cementing jobs each year. The company views safety as critical to its success and is committed to continuously improve performance.

Here is the letter from Waxman to Halliburton:

Read more: http://bulletins.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&authorID=49729292&messageID=6660054769&hash=MIG%2bBgkrBgEEAYI3WAOggbAwga0GCisGAQQBgjdYAwGggZ4wgZsCAwIAAQICZgMCAgDABAiwez%2fYcwiq5gQQv%2bJh5NSgr7nh2vUIW9983gRw5tbKipVeoxvbSTeZ4urXZpmfvI33RzVDRlPWRmVNM1Sh3aF%2bosxuHJHxdBSGspqglb8e2yY5zHstomRf66RCoI5K%2fANUZJC1X%2fTtxQMxN9qnrN%2bKhLkjbvrNZCqaB%2bPGmBnr7fRR70s%2bJ71Y6BNJ9w%3d%3d#ixzz0mnATRpEh

 
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Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulf of Mexico

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) - In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.

The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf.

"One oil rig goes down and we're going to be rolling in dough," Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. "Suck it, fishies and birdies!"

The news about Goldman's bet against the Gulf comes on the heels of embarrassing revelations that the firm had taken a short position on Lindsay Lohan's acting career. More here.
 
 
#6  (Reply)
 
FROM:  Benjamin Fulford
DATE:  May 7, 2010
SUBJECT:  Death Throes of the Beast
 
The death throes of the beast

The Satan worshipping gangsters who took over the United States government are getting increasingly desperate and dangerous. These people are guilty of mass murder and know their very lives will be forfeit if the general public finds out what they have been doing. The massive oil lead in the Gulf of Mexico is almost certainly an act of sabotage by these people i.e. the Bush Nazi Cabal.

The Office of Naval Intelligence information/disinformation site known as Sorcha Faal claims it was the North Koreans who attacked the oil platform. I personally confirmed this with a member of the Chinese security police who has direct access to the politburo. The fact that Obama immediately ordered special forces to the region is another indicator the explosion was the result of sabotage. That is one of the reasons Kim Jong Il was summoned to China immediately after the attack.

People in the West mostly do not realize this but it is common knowledge in Asian intelligence circles that the North Korean regime and the Nazi cabal often work in tandem. It was the Nazis who gave the North Koreans both their missile technology and their atomic weapons. The Nazi/CIA faction also helps the North Koreans sell amphetamines around Asia.

In this case, the oil well exploded shortly after Halliburton (CIA rogue faction) did work there. There was also a North Korean ship in the vicinity at the time.

The North Koreans are facing mass starvation (again) and are trying to negotiate a peace agreement so that is why they participated in this attack. The Nazi Cabal is simply threatening to do horrible things to the planet if the worldwide attack against them does not stop.
 
 
 
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----- Original Message ----
-From: JL
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:55 PM
Subject: reply: 'HELLO, CENTRAL!'! WAS THE B.P. GULF OF MEXICO OIL RIG DELIBERATELY BLOWN UP? (Updated May 6, 2010)
 
I don't know if you know but the The Borowitz Report is just satire. I'm not saying its not possible Goldman could of had short calls on this event, but his website is just similar to the Onion.com

J

 
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----- Original Message -----
From: KH
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:48 PM
Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10
 
Message:

A. True Ott on Goldman Sachs and Oil Rig Demolition

Like I said previously, qui bono? Follow the money, greed, and the carnage! The oil cartel and the Bankers (wankers and bankers!) are the ones! Book-em, try-em, fry-em! Murder, conspiarcy, and environmental terrorism!

\"A. True Ott, Ph.D. confirms  that there were indeed numerous \"shorts\"  placed on TransOcean stock just days before the \"problem\".

A. True Ott, Ph.D., wrote the following to me last night:

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I have confirmed that there were indeed numerous \"shorts\"  placed on TransOcean stock just days before the \"problem\". Was  it Goldman Sachs? That is yet to be conclusively determined (there is indeed  a SEC investigation ongoing) -- but labeling something as \"satire\"  is a lawyer\'s shrewd trick to keep from being sued for slander -- even  if it is all true. Moreover, there were massive shorts placed literally  seconds after the news hit the airwaves.

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Who would dare to quote the actual e-mails from \"Fabulous  Fab\", unless the writer would post them as a \"satire\" -  especially after what happened to the Wall Street Journal writers who dared  expose the 9-11 short sales involving Goldman Sachs. (They were assigned  to Afghanistan, and had fatal \"accidents\" there.)

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Dr. Ott has subsequently confirmed from two sources that  Goldman Sachs was indeed in on the shorts being placed on TransOcean stock.  And he has confirmed that the comedian was aware of that as well.\"

see full story at:

http://www.rense.com/general90/deep.htm