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'Hello, Central!' Bellringer is Not A Person of God! (Updated 8/28/08)

Patrick H. Bellringer

From: JG

To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:41 AM

Subject: you are not a person of God,you talk down to people

you are not a person of God he is not part of your soul

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: JG

DATE: August 20, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear JG:

To which God do you refer, God Jehovah Satan of the Old Testament? If this be true, then yes,he is not a part of my soul.

I work for/with Creator God Aton of Light, Creator of our Nebadon Universe, the God of Love and Light with whom you may not be familiar. You would be most wise to stop judging that of which you may have no knowledge. In the final analysis we judge ourselves and no one else before God Aton to determine our level of soul growth. My you fare well, my friend.

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

bellringer@fourwinds10.com

www.fourwinds10.com

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: SP

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:20 PM

Dear Patrick,

This is the 2nd Email i have had to write you because of your (in MY opinion) "negative attitude"

"Dear JG:To which God do you refer, God Jehovah Satan of the Old Testament? If this be true, then yes,he is not a part of my soul."

Is the Sarcasm really necessary Patrick? I mean, SURELY JG didnt mean "God Jehovah Satan of the old Testament" ...come on.

"You would be most wise to stop judging that of which you may have no knowledge. In the final analysis we judge ourselves and no one else before God Aton to determine our level of soul growth. My you fare well, my friend."

Umm.. i recall in your "hello central" last week, YOU judging Sheldon Nidle. Sorry but you cant have your cake and eat it too. "we judge ourselves" remember?

Practice what you preach!

P.S. I would REALLY appreciate an Email back this time, I dont much like being ignored? But i would just like to know whats going on..perhaps YOU can clear a few things up?

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: SP

DATE: August 21, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear SP:

If you have not done so, you would be wise to read Law number 12 of the Laws of God and Creation about judging, as stated by Sananda in Phoenix Journal #27. We are not to judge others, meaning to condemn their soul, but we must wisely judge all behavior and actions which are contrary to the Laws of Balance of God and the Creation.

I was not condemning the soul of Sheldan Nidle, my friend, but I was judging his words concerning First Contact, which run counter to the Truth of these "end Times", as stated by Creator God Aton of Light in the Phoenix Journals.

If someone said to you that God was not part of your soul, would you question the Truth of that statement? Would you like to know the identity of "the god" referred to in such a statement, or would you only assume you knew to whom the person referred? Is it sarcasm to try and determine the meaning of such a negative accusation?

I do not know what JG meant, for he did not state his meaning nor his intentions, but I do not take lightly those, who foolishly attack my "God-connection", especially when I have made my connection to Creator God Aton of Light quite clear to all, who read Fourwinds.

You claim that I have a "negative attitude". Surely, you jest. Anyone, who has read any of my writings knows that is not true. You claim that I am ignoring answering your emails. That is also not true. Because of time constraints and the volume of email coming into Fourwinds, I must respond according to the priority of the content and the urgent need for an immediate response.

Please forgive me, if I have ruffled your feathers.

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

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----- Original Message -----

From: T

To: Patrick Bellringer

Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: You talk down to people???

What the hell is this person talking about??? I have read hundreds of your letters to people, and at times you get upset with them. Hey, you are human! We all do! But I've never seen you talk down to someone intentionally, trying to hurt them!!! Never!!! You aren't that type of person.

In fact, it seems to me that you are remarkably patient with people who are obviously quite ignorant of what is really going on. I bet you daily tell yourself and God to forgive them, for they know not what they do. Am I right, or am I right???

I have caught myself shaking my head at these letters, on occasion, knowing that I would not be anywhere near as patient as you are with them. How do you do it???!!! You amaze me at times.

Of course, it just might be my hormones running all over me because I'm pregnant with triplets!!! Just the same, I bow to you in admiration for your patience!!!

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----- Original Message -----

From: SP

To: Bellringer

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:37 PM

Subject: Re:

Dear Patrick,

Thank you very much for your reply and explanation. I definitely understand that you probably get A LOT of e-mails and it must be hard to respond to everyone; i apologize for overlooking this. I also understand that NO ONE has a right to TELL you your relationship with creator and i can see your frustration with negative comments like that. I as well would be quite upset if anyone were to tell me the same thing about my relationship with creator. But heres my issue..

In a word; confusion. Between the pheonix journals, and various other sources of other information from the higher realms, it is very difficult to discern how the End times will play out. I know the MOST important thing is PERSONAL truth. I know that the future is not set in stone and we shouldnt be worrying about how/when/where/why etc it will happen. Past, Present, and Future are all occuring at the same time, and we need to understand that things are ALWAYS changing. In a previous "Hello central" someone had said something along the lines of: "Maybe the pheonix journals were correct in depicting one possible outcome for the end times and perhaps the outcome has changed." I'd like to ask you a rhetoricle question with this in mind; Is this possible? Could it be that an evacuation scenerio may no longer be required due to the recent awakening of many on earth?

"We are not to judge others, meaning to condemn their soul, but we must wisely judge all behavior and actions" I mean no disrespect whatsoever, but i dont agree with this statement.. and i'll tell you why. Judgment IS judgment.. no matter WHAT way you look at it. I understand COMPLETELY what Sananda meant by this statment, however, I KNOW that you can ONLY judge in others what you see in YOURSELF for we are ALL one; ALL equal. We've all been the "theif" we've all been the "liar" we've all been "greedy"...but at the same time we've all been selfless, we've all been love and we've all been light; This is 3D and this is part of our experience here. But simply because we are all one, until i am perfect i cannot judge a person OR their actions... because how can i know what someone IS unless i MYSELF am that? As you said, Creator does not judge us, we judge ourselve in the end for we are our harshest critics.

Again i cannot overstate the fact that i mean absolutely no disrespect and i respect YOUR personal truth. I would just like to take this time to thank you for all your hard work on Fourwinds, it was a BIG part in my awakening and you Patrick have shown me a lot as well, even tho i may not always agree %100 becuase i also have MY personal truth. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: SP

DATE: August 22, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear SP:

Thank you for your response and for your two key questions. First let us consider your question about the "End Times". There has been much prophecy, theory and spin about the ending of our present civilization on Earth Shan. Always, one must consider the authenticity of the source of such information. Secondly, one must consider whether or not the information has been altered over time or distorted by the messenger, if it be channeled information in real time.

At one point in history the writings behind the Bible may have been the most accurate account of Truth, and especially those of Judas Iscariot, the scribe of Esu Immanuel. Those have been preserved today in what is called The Talmud of Jmmanuel. This can be found on Fourwinds. (http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/vital_articles/news.php?q=7976ee84edbfb 355ed76c2a9c7d81f5ehttp://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/vital_articles/news.php?q=7976ee84edbfb355ed76c2a9c7d81f5e). Since its canonization in 323-325 BC at the First Council of Nicia, we know the Bible has had much alteration and distortion to serve the intent of various religious and political leaders of history. We also know that at that time 45 of the original writings were discarded. Therefore, today, the Bible is not a very reliable account of the original writings of the Truth presented at its inception.

The main source of Truth today has been the channeled messages from various enlightened receivers, who are presenting what they "hear" from 4D and higher dimensions. Channeled messages have merit, but are limited in accuracy dependent upon the receiver's level of understanding, perception, biases, soul growth, etc. For these reasons such messages from Higher Beings vary greatly in clarity and accuracy in presenting Truth.

Then there are those receiving spiritual messages from the Darkside to cause confusion, but they do not realize that is so. This is the very reason Creator God presented Truth to us one more time at the "End of the Age", as Esu Immanuel said, through the Phoenix Journals. The key point for all to understand is that the Phoenix Journals are not channeled material, as nearly all communications from the Higher Realms in history has been.

The Phoenix Journals were received from Hatonn/Aton and various Ascended Masters aboard the Pleiadian Star Fleet command ship, The Phoenix, by pre-arranged short-wave radio signal to Hatonn's scribe, Doris Ekker, located in Tehachapi, California, USA. She typed what she heard by radio signal onto her computer with little room for human error.

By using short-wave radio signal Creator God avoided all the confusion of mis-understanding personal interpretation and bias of channeled messages. The message was clear, for Doris Ekker simply typed the message presented to her from the short-wave radio receiver. Nothing was left to perception, interpretation or bias, etc. Never before in our history has Creator God used this method of communication to give Truth to His people living in 3D. He cut through all the confusion to give us the Truth one last time.

People argue that the Phoenix Journals were made in the 1990's and some are now twenty years old! Therefore, their message is out of date and no longer valid. How silly! These same people trust the writings of the Bible, which are from 2000 to 6000 years old. Truth is timeless. Truth is, and no one can refute it.

A second argument used to discredit the Phoenix Journals, is that Creator God does not talk to us in the style and language used by Hatonn in the Phoenix Journals. Creator God does not travel in a starship with the Ascended Masters. How so? Neither God Aton or Creation have limits. We limit God, Creation and truth by our own perceptions.

You ask, "Could it be that an evacuation scenario may no longer be required due to the recent awakening of many on earth?" I ask, "Has the condition of our Earth Mother improved in the last twenty years, ten years, or two years? She was dying in 1987, and Sananda has told us that she passed the point of no return, no recovery in 3D, years ago. Our efforts could never be enough to restore our planet to health again.

No, the evacuation message has not changed, and it will not change. That is set in stone, just as is the normal cleansing cycle of our Earth Mother. The only difference is that in this cleansing cycle she has been granted her request to graduate into fifth dimension. So, one way or another everyone gets off our planet during the coming cleansing cycle. Everything of 3D is removed or transformed into the higher frequencies of 5D. That is Cosmic Law.

Now, your second question concerned the twelfth Law of The Laws of God and Creation on judging. Basically, I was quoting Sananda's statement of this law in Phoenix Journal #27. "We are not to judge others, meaning to condemn their soul (we are not to judge their soul, for that is between them and Creator God) but we must wisely judge all behavior and action".

You said you do not agree with this statement. Guess what, neither I nor Creator God care whether you agree or disagree with Cosmic Law. We all must learn the same lessons to graduate into 5D, no matter how long we take to learn them. The is our freewill choice. I prefer the shorter route.

Really, it is a matter of understanding the meaning of "judging". We all do it all the time. You did it in your first letter to me, when you accused me of sarcasm. You judge the actions and behaviors of those whom you choose to be your friends. You judge the same for your life's partner. One would be foolish not to do so. Yes, some choose the wrong friends or the wrong mate because they did not judge wisely their behaviors and actions.

This attitude of "do not judge" comes from the Christian misunderstanding of the Bible and the statement by Esu Immanuel in Matthew 7:1. "Judge not, lest you be judged". This is a misquote and is shown so in Phoenix Journal #2 where Esu Immanuel says, "Judge not falsely, lest you be judged falsely". The Truth was twisted to mean the opposite by leaving out the word "falsely".

I suggest that you read the article I wrote some time ago on this subject, "People of the Lie: Judge Wisely", (http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/people_of_the

_lie/news.php?q=74561c0f8a5ae024410e6bead1f65c42) for more clarity of this Law.

I thank you for your kind words for our work at Fourwinds, and may you always find the Truth you seek.

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: GS

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:20 PM

Subject: Not a man of God

Dear Patrick,

I would never say you're not a man of God because some people have more Gods than the drug companies have drugs. So maybe you are a man of a God. But not my God. The one and only true God, The Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and the End. The Father of Abraham and Isaac and Israel and Jesus Christ Himself.

Yet you keep referring to space beings and spaceships like you just got off the Starship Enterprise with Scotty and Spock. And the Phoenix Journals, obviously a complete abomination. Read Revelation 22:18-19, "And I (God)

solemnly declare to everyone who hears the prophetic words of this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book". 19: "And if anyone removes any of the words of this prophetic book, God will remove that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book"

It seems clear to me that you cannot misinterpret those words. If God wanted more to be said he would have

supernaturally given it to the men who wrote His words. Just because there are writings in the Phoenix Journal or the Koran, or any other book out there does not mean someone misinterpreted the Bible and therefore its incorrect.

To say Jesus had a wife and a son is total blasphemy. I would fear for my very soul after saying those words. To say that we judge ourselves is contrary to Jesus words that all will face the Judgment seat of Christ and WILL BE JUDGED according to their deeds.

If we only judge ourselves then who cares about the Bible and the Phoenix Journals. I'm going to judge myself and say not guilty every time. Who am I to judge myself? I did not write the law, God did! So I can only be judged by the lawgiver.

Where the aliens come into play I sure don't know. The only aliens I know of are Satan's demons who can portray anyone they wish and make you believe in space folk. Do not play that game! it's more dangerous than setting yourself on fire.

One last comment. You asked a reader who wrote to you, "of which God do you refer" God Aton or God Satan. Let me set one thing straight, Satan is no more a god than you or I. He is a created being that is given any resource to live or breathe by his creator, God Himself. If he were a god then he sure wouldn't be facing the lake of fire and eternal damnation.

Why do you as a student of the Bible have so much difficulty believing that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God? How can someone make claims that there are space people? How can you state that Jesus was married and had a son? How can you go to bed at night and not fear for your very soul?

I will pray that you open your eyes and ears very soon because Jesus is going to be walking through the veil any moment and you may be left here tending to the 4 winds website trying to explain to everyone you wrote to why you misled them and why they and you are not in Heaven with God. And why the space folks didn't fly into your backyard to gather you up.

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: GS

DATE: August 23, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear GS:

I have nothing to say to "walking dead and cement people". Truth stands on its own merit!

PHB

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: AM

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:43 AM

Subject: 'Hello, Central!' Bellringer is Not A Person of God! (Updated 8/22/08)

Hello!

Believing "fanatically" in every word of the Phoenix Journals is not all that different from believing fanatically in every word of the Bible. Yes, the Bible is older and thus more altered, but to claim that anything is "set in stone" in this 3D universe is misleading in my opinion. The truth is that almost nothing is set in stone, since everything is subject to change. The ET being Bashar channeled by Darryl Anka operates with 4 basic laws of the universe:

There are only Four Laws in Creation:

1. You exist.

2. The One is All and the All are One .

3. What you put out is what you get back.

4. Change is the only constant...

Except for the first three laws, which never change.

This can be said to be "set in stone", because these laws CANNOT be broken. These socalled "end times" are packed full of change. There has never been more potential for change than at these times. Things happen very fast and in synchronisity all over the Planet. People DO wake up in unprecedented numbers all over the globe (in my experience even people you would never think it would happen to). Much of this happens "quietly" and "behind the scenes" for the moment being. But sooner rather than later it is bound to manifest and make a big differenece in the mirror of the 3D physical world.

I am myself a socalled "star being" that has choosen to come here at these times from socalled "higher dimensions" (my last life on Earth was in the 1500s). My life has been nothing but "lessons" and I have rid myself of my personal "karma" or "past". Thus, I live in the moment on the edge of the beautiful crest of the wave of change which will peak around 2012 and carry a lot of us into an even more beautiful future. The higher you climb on the peak of the "now/eternity" the better is your view/vision of "the future" (which is always just a sensing of the energies of the moment moving towards fruition). If the energies change directions, so does "the future". Socalled "predictions of the future" are thus only probabilities (as they seem in the moment of the prediction) and often the prediction itself can alter/change the energies, and thus change "the future" (the "dark side" of this coin/equation is, of course, the phenomenon of "self-fulfilling prophecies").

Here is what I would like to share:

I can remember some months ago feeling actual phyiscal relief for no appearent reason. It was like a dense pressure from all sides being suddenly removed. From that time on my interest in "dire predictions" etc. shrunk to zero and was replaced by more and more joy and release of energy. I used to listen to Alex Jones radio show most every day for 2 years or so, but from that moment on I have not listened to it at all. Nothing of that nature felt relevant anymore. The only thing that felt relevant and ressonated with my highest joy and being was Casper updates, Sheldon Nidle's updates, Matthews messages and not least Mike Quinsey's channeled messages (http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm). It was not long after this intuitive sensing that several of these messages stated that we - as humanity - had transcended the "dire predictions". Thus, in the continuum we were/are already victorious. This was a perfect wording of how I felt it to be. I am really sorry if this is upsetting to anyone, but I trust my Highest Joy more than I trust any text/journal/bible/message etc.

In reality there is no need to argue about "what will happen or not". As your wife, Anne Bellringer, channeled in her latest message from Aton: If there is need for evacuation it will be done. If not, then that is OK too, is it not? So, who cares? Let's just enjoy the ride here and now! Either way we are victorious; for we shall indeed reap what we saw. Be it in this life or the next.

Warm Blessings from,

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: RH

To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:54 PM

Subject: What God do you worship

Expound upon the god that you serve and explain how he has provided for your redemption

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: RH

DATE: August 27, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear RH:

I have already done so many times in my writings and in the Hello, Centrals! What more can I say? If you have not done your homework of reading the basic Phoenix Journals # 2, 3, 5, 7, 27 and 47 and the Talmud of Jmmanuel, you lack the foundation for understanding the Truth we offer at Fourwinds. Your next step would be to select various articles of The People of the Lie series and read them, and then do the same for the hundreds of the "Hello, Centrals!", I have written over these past years.

I am not in servitude to any god. I honor Creator God Aton of Light, who redeems no one. I redeem myself by living the Laws of God and Creation. I am carrying out my mission of presenting Truth to the four winds of Shan, and as I learn my agreed upon lessons in soul growth, I move to a higher frequency.

Earth Shan is our school-room and some will graduate from 3D to 5D, and some will not. Those, who do not graduate, will continue on in other 3D lifestreams until they learn their lessons. Everyone must learn the same lessons. No one skips a grade.

When Earth Shan's self-cleansing makes it unsafe to remain on her surface, I shall be evacuated to safety and leave this 3D planet, while she transitions into 5D. I plan to return to my home in Pleiades which is in 7D.

What are your plans?

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: RH

To: Bellringer

Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: What God do you worship

What are the laws of God and creation and what is your truth that makes it truth

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: RH

DATE: August 27, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear RH:

The Laws of God and Creation are given in detail in Phoenix Journal number 27 (http://www.fourwinds10.com/journals/pdf/J027.pdf) by Esu (Jesus) Immanuel Sananda. This is Truth coming from Creator God, as I explained in this very "Hello, Central!" in my response to SP. Go, read!

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

(Reply)

----- Original Message -----

From: GS

To: Bellringer

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:22 AM

Subject: Re: Not a man of God

Patrick,

I never called you a name!

What exactly is "Walking Dead"? I think I saw that movie once.

What exactly is "cement people"? I'm not even sure if I should be offended or not

What exactly is truth in your opinion?

My ambition in life is surely not to offend you in any way. I don't even know you. All I know is a lot of people can't seem to find it in their life to believe in God yet you believe in space aliens. Wouldn't the Bible, even if it's flawed in some way, have some reference to life outside of this planet if there were any? And why would we need saving by a spaceship when Christ himself will save us. You can't talk about God or Christ and space beings in the same breath. It just doesn't compute. I have no idea where "Aton" came from as long as we are talking about the same God of the bible. And "Esu Sananda" where did that name come from?

(Response)

FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer

TO: GS

DATE: August 28, 2008

SUBJECT: Reply

Dear GS:

Why is it that you refuse to read the Phoenix Journals? Are you afraid of the Truth? I am not offended, but I am a bit exasperated at your slow learning curve.

Any serious Truthseeker would go to work and read, learn, discover and explore, but you keep throwing this Bible jazz at me. As a teacher, I would have you stay after school to do your homework for the rest of the school year, and probably summer school as well!

You ask about "walking dead and cement people". Read Phoenix Journal #101 entitled "The Breathing Dead and Cement Children". (http://www.fourwinds10.com/journals/pdf/J101.pdf) . You ask about aliens. All references to aliens and starships were removed from the Bible, when it was first compiled in 323 AD. Many times I have written about this.

I give you one example. In the supposed Christmas story, the wiremen were said to have followed a star. How do you follow a star? Do stars move magically for 600 miles from Ur of the Chaldea to Jerusalem, then to Bethlehem? Does a star move from Bethlehem to Egypt for Joseph to follow to safety?

My friend, the Bible has been grossly altered to make people believe lies, not Truth. What is the Truth of the Christmas story? The word "star" had the last part purposely removed to fool the people. The wisemen followed a "starship", and its name was "The Star of Bethlehem!"

Esu Immanuel is an E.T.! He came in a cloud (cloudship) and left in a cloud (cloudship), and has returned to our planet in 1954 aboard the Pleiadian Command Ship, The Phoenix. In the Bible Esu Immanuel said he would be given a new name. His new name is Sananda, meaning 'one with God."

The name "Aton" is found in every language and every culture on our planet, Earth Shan. Aton is the God of Light, Creator of our Nebadon Universe. Read Nora Boyles book "The Garden of Aton', and learn.

All souled-beings on Earth Shan at this time are E.T.'s. I am an E.T! You are an E.T.! We have come in this lifestream by agreement with Aton to assist with the transition of our planet into the fifth dimension. We have come from our homes in the stars without memory to do our mission and to learn lessons in soul growth. Many have not awakened to their mission. Maybe you are one, who is awakening! I hope so!

If you do not believe in aliens, you are of the "walking dead and cement people". There are more than 178 billion life-supporting planets in the Milky Way Galaxy alone. There are many planets with humans, and there are thousands of Starships with our ancestors aboard them orbiting our planet at this time. They are the "hosts of God" sent to assist us at this time. They have come from more than 200 star nations and are human, as we are.

We are not alone! Go, read, and may you find the Truth you seek.

In Love and Light,

Patrick H. Bellringer

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